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Strap in for a Scoobtacular crossover as we experience some deja vu as this week we watch "Scoobynatural".  What wins in a street race between an Impala and a micro van? What really killed Colonel Beauregard Sanders? And what is a scooby-don't? All this and more await inside the Scooby Zone.

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SPEAKER_00

Hello and welcome to the Scooby-Zone, the podcast where we're gonna need a bigger mouth as we watch a bit of Scooby-Doo media. I'm Rob. And I'm Katie. And today we will be watching Scooby Natural Episode 280 of Supernatural.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Not Scooby-Doo.

SPEAKER_03

Not Scooby-Doo, but it is within the likes of Scooby-Doo, but it's a little different take on it, so we're very excited to show this to you guys. It's definitely different, but it's Scooby-Doo for adults. Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_00

Um yeah, last week we watched A Night Afright is no delight, episode 16 of the original Scooby-Doo Where Are You? And back in 2018, the 16th episode of the 13th season of Supernatural was a self-contained crossover with that particular episode of Scooby-Doo. Right. So we figured we just covered the Scooby-Doo episode.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

We'll cover the Supernatural episode right away.

SPEAKER_03

Right, let's do it. This could be fun.

SPEAKER_00

You know, and this is going to be very interesting.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it is definitely.

SPEAKER_00

Because you have a long history with Supernatural as a series.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. And me, this is essentially the only episode that I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_03

Of course it is. So no pun intended on that one.

SPEAKER_00

So it's going to be. I think it's going to be a nice back and forth between the two of us for this episode.

SPEAKER_03

I definitely think so.

SPEAKER_00

Obviously, there's going to be jokes you will understand more than I will. Yes, there will be. Because when I first saw this episode a couple years back. Right. All I knew in terms of Supernatural was just what I believe would be picked up through pop culture osmosis, you know?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I know Sam and Dean.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

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I know Dean's obsession with the Impala.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yes. Baby. Baby.

SPEAKER_00

And something about this song, Carry On My Wayward Son by Kansas.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yes. That is actually for the end of pretty much the end of like the last episode of every season. The intro is like it's a summarization of the whole uh season as a whole, but with Carry on My Wayward Son as the song playing with it. So that is what that song technically means. So very, very popular song within the supernatural culture. So yes.

SPEAKER_00

So as you can see, I went into this particular episode knowing very little.

SPEAKER_03

Practically nothing. Give you a little props of very little. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

You know, I mean I knew the two main characters. Right. And, you know, one of them loves their car, which is a 69 Impala. 67 Chevy Impala.

SPEAKER_03

It's a 69. 67. Okay, so I got the year wrong.

SPEAKER_00

Either way, I knew it was a Chevy Impala.

SPEAKER_03

Well, there you go. You might make Dean very unhappy because you're saying it's a 69. It's supposed to be a 69.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm not a ghost, so I have nothing to worry about.

SPEAKER_03

But there's a ghost. Oh man.

SPEAKER_00

Although he did voice Red Hood in the direct-to-vide movie Batman Under the Red Hood. And yeah, it's a pretty violent member of the Bat family.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, most definitely.

SPEAKER_00

I guess I'm gonna have to skip town now.

SPEAKER_03

You might have to skip town.

SPEAKER_00

Well, you know, the Red Hood would still track me.

SPEAKER_03

You can't get away. Oh, Chucky Darns, you can't get away now. Oh well. Zooks. Oh man.

SPEAKER_00

Anyways, um boy. No. This is going to be a fun time.

SPEAKER_03

This will definitely be a fun time. A lot longer than the regular runtimes of the previous episodes that we've been recording. Around like 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_00

A lot longer than the 22 minutes we're used to watching.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, it'll be like watching two episodes at a time, which we never do that. So this will definitely be an interesting take for us and to see how we go through moving on and everything.

SPEAKER_00

Right. I think before we get into watching the episode, um wanna touch up on, you know, like we did at the start with on What a Night for a Night.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

You know, we went over the voice cast of Scooby-Doo.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

While the episode that is involved with this episode is taking place on stuff we've already covered. Right. It's not the same voice casts.

SPEAKER_03

Almost well, I mean it's almost the same voice.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, there are some it's like one quarter of the Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Right. I mean there's still some that are in bud.

SPEAKER_00

So, you know, gonna go over just a quick run through. We still have Frank Welker as the voice of Fred.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And he has now 100% taken over the role of Scooby. Yep. Uh definitely after Scott I Scott Aynes voicely briefed Scooby for some projects.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

After Don Messicks passing away.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

We've got Gray Griffin as the voice of Daphne, who has essentially been the voice of Daphne since I want to say 2001 with Scooby-Doo and the Cyber Chase.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that sounds about right there.

SPEAKER_00

You know, she's gone to work with all of the best Scooby-Doo voice casts through her time. We've got Matthew Lillard reprising the role of Shaggy from his stint as Shaggy in the live-action theatrical films. Yep. And taking over the role for Casey Kasum in the early 2010s with Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated. Yep. And finishing off the cast of the Scooby Gain, we've got Kate Makuchi as the voice of Velma. Yep. Who I think I think she started voicing Velma in 2015. Maybe 2014.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

I know it was with a direct-to-video movie.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And her first main series as Velma was Be Cool Scooby-Doo. Right. And while I don't think she's as terrible as the voice of Velma.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

She in my she does feel like she's probably the weakest of the cast members.

SPEAKER_03

I agree with that one.

SPEAKER_00

Part of it is, you know the rest of them had been voicing them for years at this point.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Really have those character mannerisms down. But I also think Velma as a character in these later years has been very difficult to get the writing down for.

SPEAKER_03

It is definitely differ.

SPEAKER_00

She's either written to be too know-it-all-y.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, that is definitely true.

SPEAKER_00

Or there is more of a focus on the Shag and Scoob antics going on.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah. Yeah. She becomes like jealous or whatever. That's like fairly weird. I'm like, I don't I don't understand any of that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

And like and some of that writing was goes back to even like when Mindy Cohn was still voicing Velma.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It's I think a lot of it is the writing.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And an actor can only do so much with what they're given.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

But we will you know, we can table that discussion and ranking of her performance on a later date for when we get to the series where she's more around.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

You know, and then on the supernatural end, it's I don't know the actors' names.

SPEAKER_03

What, you mean like the actors uh from the show?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, who voice their respective characters for the animated segments.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, alright. I I got this one then. We'll do this. No, because you're the expert. I'm the expert. In Supernatural, I am the expert. Alright. So of course we have the main characters. We have Jensen Achoes playing the role of Dean Winchester, and then we have Jared Padlackey, who voices Sam Winchester, and then we have Misha Collins, who voices Castillo.

SPEAKER_00

Who's Castillo?

SPEAKER_03

He's an angel of the Lord. Okay. So yeah, just quick.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know these things. I'm new to this.

SPEAKER_03

Well, lucky you have me to be your guide.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and you know, and um yeah, it um we'll be able to talk more on my thoughts and feelings on the episode after we go ahead and watch it. Right. Because I think one, I think you'll be interested in hearing my thoughts and feelings due to the fact that, you know, I I myself would say I'm completely outside of this fan base right here. It's like I've seen this episode because obviously, by its title, Scooby Natural, it involves Scooby-Doo. Right. I'm a huge Scooby fan. So obviously, I you know, I watched it for that end. Right. So yeah, I think it'll be interesting afterwards, you know, giving my take on my thoughts. Yep. And if how I think this does as a potential episode of bringing people into this franchise? Yeah. Yep. Which you will then be able to either confirm or tell me I'm an idiot.

SPEAKER_02

You're an idiot.

SPEAKER_00

No, you're supposed to tell me that after we watch it.

SPEAKER_02

Well, let's wait and see.

SPEAKER_00

So we're gonna go ahead and watch this episode.

SPEAKER_03

Awesome.

SPEAKER_00

You guys should be able to should be able to watch the episode. Yes. The entire series of Supernatural I know is available on physical media. Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_03

It's expensive. Depending on how you buy it, it could be expensive. Yes, like you said, it's on physical media. It's also on Prime Video and Peacock. Those are the two. Oh, it is on Peacock now? It is on P It was on release both of them at the same time. Okay. So those are the two. If you have those streaming platforms, you can definitely watch it and find that episode and watch it with us.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

It would definitely work.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't know it was uh brought on to I knew that it had left Netflix.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, it left Netflix. But yeah, it wasn't.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't know that it was already on Peacock. Right.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I mean, honestly, I'm surprised it didn't go to HBO Max because that's Warner Brothers. I don't know why. Yeah, that's that's where I was a little surprised that it because they'd have more freedom with that because it's Warner Brothers versus you know Prime. Well, I know Prime you could buy it off of back then before they put it on there, but it I mean, I used I watched it on TV when it first came out, I watched it on TNT after it was done. You know, it's just reruns, they do a loop through all the seasons, and then when the season's done, it would loop way right back to season one. So you got a refresher, and I think that's where we'll leave it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And I will say I will say this that if you have the means to watch this on physical media, that from my understanding, that is the best way to watch it. Yes, they're definitely the best way to watch it. Because from what you have told me, what my co-worker Matt has mentioned to me, okay, that on the streaming platforms, certain sound changes are altered. Yep. Uh which I can understand because you know, when you have to license music, you know, streaming affects how the that license works.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Yep. That's kind of what I thought too. They didn't have the license or couldn't get the license, so they had to change it with honestly. That kind of ruins the experience of the episode because you need that certain the music you need is the one that was when it aired on TV or on TNT. They still had it right on TNT. So that ruins it when it doesn't have that that song with it. I mean, honestly, it it ruins it. I mean, it just it messes up the whole part of the episode. You need that music with the episode.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. You know, so gotta love how all that licensing work goes and oh I know.

SPEAKER_03

You gotta love that, huh?

SPEAKER_00

You know, and how all those contracts get written up because I'm pretty positive that that's one of the reasons why we never got something like the Scooby-Doo project on physical media is because of how the contracts for the act the actors' voice work was handled.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Yeah, I definitely agree on that one.

SPEAKER_00

But we're gonna go search for some clues watching the episode, and we will be right back. And we're back. That was Scooby Natural.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, definitely was.

SPEAKER_00

And boy, that episode is a trip.

SPEAKER_03

It definitely is but in a good way. It's a good trip. It has to be in a good way. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

It's it's amazing that they were able to take a show that's live action primarily. Right. And then you'd be the better judge on this, but I think it was adapted well into the cartoon format.

SPEAKER_03

I I think it was pretty well adapted into it, like with the characters, you know, Scooby Gang, but then also throwing a new twist and putting the boys in there, you know, I think they you know, I think they did really well in putting them together. You know, I think it's a pretty good, you know, a new a different look at the original episode, you know, different, like you said, different cartoon animation, but also a different look more into the supernatural side of it.

SPEAKER_00

So Yeah, and I think just having the Winchesters and Castel there changing up the group dynamics.

SPEAKER_03

It definitely did. More ways.

SPEAKER_00

Made it a refreshing change of pace.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

You know, I think that's why, you know, the new Scooby movies in the 70s with, you know, all the guest stars there worked so well. It's like they had more characters more or less for the rest of the game to play off of, mix up the troops. But before we go too much further, why don't we go ahead and take this from the top?

SPEAKER_03

Yep, we'll take it from the top.

SPEAKER_00

This is gonna be this is either going to be a very short, condensed play-by-play, or it's gonna be very long drawn out.

SPEAKER_03

It could be long drawn out, we'll see how it goes here when we first start off.

SPEAKER_00

So we open up with Dean fighting a dinosaur.

SPEAKER_03

That is the weirdest thing. A stuffed dinosaur. A stuffed dinosaur.

SPEAKER_00

You know, he's fighting the dinosaur, eventually, you know, gets to a point where he pours some holy oil on it, they light it on fire.

SPEAKER_03

Light it on fire, yep.

SPEAKER_00

And then poof, raining stuffing.

SPEAKER_02

Raining stuffing. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

You know, you know, they're in a pawn shop, and the owner of the pawn shop, you know, says that you know they could have anything they want as a reward while the pawn shop's business neighbor Jay shows up to you know, see what the commotion was or whatnot. Yep. Sam mentions to Dean how something doesn't sit right, maybe they should do some more investigating.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

When Jay just kind of suddenly appears out of nowhere, kind of creepily.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, definitely.

SPEAKER_00

You know, because that's not suspicious at all.

SPEAKER_03

No, it's definitely not. I don't know if that's standard and a supernatural thing, but yeah, kind of a stem for them to just pop up, but he's human, he's not a demon. Technically, demons pop up like that. That's really not a human thing, but you know.

SPEAKER_00

You know. You know. So yeah, he asks, you know, if there's anything, you know that they want.

SPEAKER_03

Anything they want in his pawn shop, anything at all.

SPEAKER_00

So, you know, they take a nice big TV.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

And they take it back to the place that they're kind of they're in the bunker.

SPEAKER_03

Yes. That is where they are, and it's the TV is put in the Dean Cave. Okay. Because he makes up the Dean Cave in an earlier episode.

SPEAKER_00

Now the fortress of Dean ato?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, no, it's called the Dean Cave.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00

You know, they get the TV all hooked up, and all of a sudden there's some flashing purple lights.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's weird.

SPEAKER_00

And you know, next thing you know, is they're inside the TV as cartoon characters.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that is really weird. That is I never would have thought I would have gone that far and actually been put into a cartoon. You know? It's just so weird.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, they're mar they're surprised at the idea that they're in a cartoon. I mean, they never would have expected that.

SPEAKER_00

To the point where I don't remember which one of them is freaking out. Is it Sam? One of them's freaking out, and then the other one slaps them in the face and it leaves the handprint.

SPEAKER_03

Dean slaps Sam. Okay. There's a big, big handprint on his face, side of his face.

SPEAKER_00

You know, that's how you know you're in a cartoon.

SPEAKER_03

Most definitely.

SPEAKER_00

And conveniently, especially as we'll find out later.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

The impala is with them.

SPEAKER_03

Well, of course it would be. Why wouldn't it be there with them? That would that would make sense.

SPEAKER_00

Because the car wasn't in the Dean cave with them.

SPEAKER_03

No, but like you said, the keys were in his pocket. So maybe that makes that move with them too. I mean, I don't know how that worked, but apparently it makes it Scooby logic. It doesn't have to make sense.

SPEAKER_00

But this is now we're in supernatural logic.

SPEAKER_03

Why no?

SPEAKER_00

I don't know how well that's supposed to make sense.

SPEAKER_03

It's Scooby natural logic. Well, that's what it is. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

They drive to a malt shop.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

When you know Dean notices the nice micro van they are parked next to with its green and blue paint job with its orange flowers.

SPEAKER_03

Gee, I wonder what that could be. Yeah. I've never heard of this micro van before. What are we talking about?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. They go inside the malt shop and, you know, quick pan over the scenery, and you know, you see the Scooby-Gane dancing by the jukebox while Scooby's at the booth drinking milkshakes.

SPEAKER_03

Milkshakes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And yep. They are in Scooby-Doo.

SPEAKER_03

They're not just in any cartoon, they're in Scooby-Doo.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. You know, the one cartoon was a talking dog.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Not a talking dog, but the talking dog. You know, they're role models.

SPEAKER_03

They definitely are role models. Except for Fred. He's a little Yeah, Fred's a wad. He's a wad. What do you have against Fred?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, the stupid ascot.

SPEAKER_02

Right?

SPEAKER_00

His can-do attitude. He's a wad.

SPEAKER_02

He's a wad, yep.

SPEAKER_00

Daphne's just settling for him.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, of course.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, anybody could tell you that.

SPEAKER_02

She can barely do way better.

SPEAKER_00

This, you know, they ask them after the Scooby-Gain is sitting at the booth Scooby's at if they can join them.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00

That it looks like they're celebrating something.

SPEAKER_03

Whatever could that be?

SPEAKER_00

Well, it turns out that Scooby saved a guy from drowning in a fish pond. And he's being honored in his will.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

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Because the guy did die.

SPEAKER_03

Of cancer.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, from cancer.

SPEAKER_03

So we apparently have added something new that we didn't know was an option. We didn't know how he died.

SPEAKER_00

They have to go to the mansion for the will reading, which means road food, which equals giant sandwiches.

SPEAKER_03

Look how big someone's mouth is.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, Cheey and Scooby make their big sandwiches, and Dean goes ahead and joins them.

SPEAKER_03

He makes a big snake.

SPEAKER_00

I'm assuming there's probably a running joke in the series of Dean like to eat food.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. He loves to eat food. All the diners, all that stuff. Maybe it came from the malt shop. Maybe his love came from that from the show, which he said. Maybe he watched it a lot as a kid. You know, maybe that's where he. Love from diner food, you know. I mean greasy food, whatnot.

SPEAKER_00

So you know, they're you know, they get in their vehicles to drive to the mansion.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And hence the word drive. We're driving to the mansion, which before we were on a boat to the mansion. So how does that they must have been something? Well, they probably had to do it with baby because baby was on the they must have had to do something with that.

SPEAKER_00

It is but you know, like some of the differences like between this episode and the original Night Up Right is No Delight is in the original episode from 1969, right? You know, the mansion was on a island that was just a hill with a house on it. A house that they had to take them out. Here it's not on an island, there's no water, it's a hill just off a creepy road, I guess.

SPEAKER_03

Pretty much something like that. Yeah, that sounds about right.

SPEAKER_00

But you know, we've got the mystery machine and the impala at a stoplight right next to each other.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00

Which means Dray Grace.

SPEAKER_03

It definitely does.

SPEAKER_00

Now a 67 Impala versus a 60s micro van.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

You know, we've got van versus muscle car.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

So if you think the mystery machine wins this, like you guys must be some sort of like car expert or something.

SPEAKER_03

You must have seen this episode previously before we watched this.

SPEAKER_00

Because for somehow, the aerodynamic perfectness of the Impala loses to a van.

SPEAKER_03

Well, you saw it was sabotaged. You saw Dean and Sam get smoked out by the micro van. They couldn't see what they were doing. So they're blinded while they couldn't even race. So it's sabotage, I tell you. It is the game turned as a wad. It's sabotage. All right.

SPEAKER_00

As they start driving off, we see a mysterious figure.

SPEAKER_03

Mystery guest number one. I wonder who it could be. What's that with that lovely trench coat? Maybe in a trench coat. You supernatural fans will know what I'm talking about. Maybe in a trench coat.

SPEAKER_00

We go to the mansion where the will reading is being done, where it was, again, read aloud through a record.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Classic vinyl. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

You know, same stipulations as in the original episode.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

You know, the you know, the five people are set to inherit, you know, fortune. Yep, a million dollars.

SPEAKER_03

Million dollar fortune.

SPEAKER_00

You know, divided equally, whoever you know, they have to stay the night in a haunted house. Whoever leaves.

SPEAKER_03

Haunted. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, the place is haunted.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no. How is that possible?

SPEAKER_00

Ghosts.

SPEAKER_03

What does a ghost die?

SPEAKER_00

You know, whoever leaves loses their share of the fortune.

SPEAKER_03

Or dies. Whichever one comes first, or captured, however you want to say it. Kidnapped?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Rognapped.

SPEAKER_00

And so Sam questions the legality. Of course. But why would he?

SPEAKER_03

That's how Sam is. He he will do that in a heartbeat.

SPEAKER_00

And yeah, actually, I'm kind of curious of the legality of doing something like this.

SPEAKER_03

Nowadays.

SPEAKER_00

They may still uh wrench in the plans of you know giving somebody a million dollars of monopoly money. Right.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that too. I mean, it isn't actual money, so technically it might be considered okay since they're not getting paid technically.

SPEAKER_00

You know, you know they all you know go off to separate rooms. It's 10 o'clock, it's time to turn in.

SPEAKER_03

Apparently, somehow.

SPEAKER_00

You know, Dean wants uh room with Daphne, but of course Daphne shuts him down. Boys and girls don't share rooms.

SPEAKER_03

I don't know, it's this late 60s. They don't share a room.

SPEAKER_00

So, you know, Fred tells him that he can bunk with him, slugger.

SPEAKER_03

Oh god. They all share the same room. That's gonna be a really big room if they all share the same room. And it wasn't that big an action.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. We see Sam in, you know, nice pajamas. Yep. When Dean comes in in a sleeping row rope, which is like being wrapped in a hug.

SPEAKER_03

It is like being wrapped in a hug, apparently.

SPEAKER_00

Uh-huh. You know, we get kind of a short bit in Daphne and Velma's room. Yep. Where we get a hint of Velma kind of crushing on Sam.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. Those shoulders are those shoulders.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know how necessary that particular scene really was. But we got it.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, we definitely did.

SPEAKER_00

You know, we then go to Cousin Simple's room when the Phantom Shadow shows up, but unlike in the original episode, this time it has a knife.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

And when Dean mentions to Sam how soon, you know, they'll find Cousin Simple and you know They won't find him, he'll be missing. Well, you know, they get the scream, they go to Cousin Simple's room, and this time instead of a missing body, there's a dead body with blood.

SPEAKER_03

With blood. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, things are definitely different in this episode. Yeah, they're a bit more real this time.

SPEAKER_03

A bit more real. Yep. Definitely a supernatural twist to the episode. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So you know, the Scooby Gang are then talking in the living room area, parlor.

SPEAKER_03

Whatever you want to call it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know, when there's a mysterious shadow outside the window. Oh, it comes in and they wrap it up in a curtain. And it turns out to be Castiel. That's our mystery guest? Yes. He is quickly introduced to the Scooby-Gane. Yep. And a talking dog.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. This dog is talking.

SPEAKER_00

They wander around, run into a shadow, the Phantom Shadow.

SPEAKER_03

The Phantom Shadow.

SPEAKER_00

Where after he gets away, they go to the room he came out of and they find the lawyer beheaded.

SPEAKER_03

Hmm. That doesn't sound very logical. That doesn't sound very it's like he wasn't supposed to be down like that. They really switch stuff up in this one.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. So they decide Fred makes the dumb decision of splitting up.

SPEAKER_03

No, they shouldn't split up.

SPEAKER_00

But it's hard for Sam and Dean and Castell to protect them if they're all split up.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

So we end up with the following groups of people.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, we do.

SPEAKER_00

We get Fred, Daphne, and Dean as one group.

SPEAKER_03

One group.

SPEAKER_00

Velma and Sam as another. Yep. And then Shady, Scooby, and Cassio as the last one.

SPEAKER_01

The last one.

SPEAKER_00

And I enjoyed the pairings as somebody who doesn't have much connection to the supernatural characters. Right. In your opinion, how do you think the pairings worked out?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, I I think the pairings worked really well. I mean, I think they did a good job. I mean, obviously, you know, Dean would try to go with Daphne, you know. I mean, I I didn't know how Sam would pan out or, you know, who he would team up with, but I kind of knew with how Castel is, I kind of knew they probably were gonna pair him off with Shaggy and Scooby, you know, so it's like, where do you put Sam? How does but then putting him with Velma, who they both have the same smarts and everything, you know, Sam is probably just as smart as Velma.

SPEAKER_00

It probably helps that Castel is Sam and Dean's talking dog.

SPEAKER_03

It probably does help, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_00

The first group we follow is Velma and Sam. Yep. Sam tries to convince Velma that there are real ghosts. He and Dean have saved the world countless times. Yep. A lot. Velma being Velma doesn't believe him.

SPEAKER_03

Of course not. Why would why would she believe that?

SPEAKER_00

And while they are searching the attic, they find a chest of toys.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Which is the only thing not covered in dust, but Sam notices ectoplasm.

SPEAKER_03

Ectoplasm, yep.

SPEAKER_00

The toys then kind of float up after Velma goes off on the there's no such thing as real ghosts.

SPEAKER_03

Of course. The ghost had to show her what's real. You antagonized it. She's an antagonizer. She is. She definitely with her glasses on the room.

SPEAKER_00

We cut to Fred Daff and Dean searching in a library in which Dean points out that there is one book that is not painted into the background of a library.

SPEAKER_03

Right, definitely. That would, I mean, what there's only like one reason why it would look like that, because it's a secret passageway. But not the way you would think it's a secret passageway.

SPEAKER_00

Which I believe was originally the piano trapdoor.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Because that's not in this episode at all.

SPEAKER_03

It's not, but that is right. I mean, that would have been cooler if that and still.

SPEAKER_00

They end up going down a slide. They land in a pile. Dean thinks he's getting cozy up with Daphne when it turns out to be the ghost. Yep, the phantom shadow.

SPEAKER_03

The Phantom Shadow. And he freaks out that it's not Daphne.

SPEAKER_00

We cut to Shaggy Scooby and Cassio sneaking through a hallway when all of a sudden, just out of nowhere, the ghost is behind them.

SPEAKER_03

The ghost is behind them with corny music in the background.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. Which then cues to just a great, fantastic musical chase scene. Yep. Set to the original Scooby-Doo theme song.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. Definitely perfect there. Cool.

SPEAKER_00

In which, you know, it covers all of the running around tropes, including specifically the Scooby-Dooby Doors.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, the Scooby-Dooby Doors, yeah, kind of.

SPEAKER_00

And where we get a brilliant Easter egg of Scrappy-Doo Scrappy Doo showing up during the during that segment. Which I think is just kind of perfect.

SPEAKER_03

Perfect. That was a cool Easter egg to find. It almost definitely was.

SPEAKER_00

Basically they end up kind of trapped in a room.

SPEAKER_01

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

Ghost is ghosting. It you know, tosses Fred off to the side. It's got it picks up Daphne and Velma after tosses Shaggy out a window.

SPEAKER_03

Yikes.

SPEAKER_00

Sam and Dean pick up some iron candlestick holders.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

That hurt the ghost. Ghost goes away.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Find Shaggy on an out an external drain pipe.

SPEAKER_03

Just like he was in the original episode.

SPEAKER_00

But he falls. Uh Scooby jumps out the window to try to get him. In which Cassial jumps out to get Scooby.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Slows the fall down. Right. But Shagey still manages to break his arm.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you definitely hear that painful crack of the arm.

SPEAKER_00

That's definitely the realistic.

SPEAKER_03

You definitely hear that and you're like, ooh. You know.

SPEAKER_00

It's at that point where you know it's not Dean is convinced that they have to tell them the truth, that they are not that they are cartoon characters, but that there are real ghosts.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

In which everybody just has an extassenal breakdown.

SPEAKER_03

They all have a crisis on their own.

SPEAKER_00

You know. Velma's concerned how everything she knows is a lie. Fred believes he wasted his life because instead instead of stopping real estate scams, he could have been hunting down Dracula's.

SPEAKER_03

And Velma thought she was blind even with her glasses.

SPEAKER_00

Daphne's convinced she's going to hell. Daphne, what did you do that you feel like you're going to hell?

SPEAKER_03

Well, and Shaggy gets all upset that did you guys listen to us? We still jump like every time.

SPEAKER_02

School without pull junk.

SPEAKER_03

But did you listen? No. No, of course not. They all have their own crisis. Like they all freak out in their own way. It's like, oh god. Oh god.

SPEAKER_00

Now it's a matter of like, well, they have no methods of fighting ghosts.

SPEAKER_03

No, they do not.

SPEAKER_00

But how convenient was it that the ghost pulled the impala in? Because in the trunk of the impala is all of their ghost hunting weapons. Definitely.

SPEAKER_03

All of them.

SPEAKER_00

Sam wants to give Velma a shotgun, which is a Scooby-Dooby don't.

SPEAKER_02

Scooby-Doobie don't. Yep, definitely not.

SPEAKER_00

You know. And basically they do what they do best. Fred builds a trap.

SPEAKER_03

Fred builds a trap. He certainly does. Which is a really good trap, by the way. It actually is a Yes. Minus the coconuts, of course.

SPEAKER_00

Essentially the trap the trap is essentially what we get in the original episode. Yep. Just a couple minor tweaks. It's in a much larger area. All of the entrances to the room minus one are cut are lined with salt.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Because real ghosts can't penetrate salt.

SPEAKER_03

Nope. They can't penetrate a salt line. Nope. They're stuck in it. Or there's they're stuck in it or they're stuck out of it. They can't get in or they can't get out. So they're stuck essentially.

SPEAKER_00

You know, then they've got a line of suds leading to a spring-loaded ironing board to launch the ghost into a washing machine that is wrapped in chains.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Iron chains.

SPEAKER_03

Iron chains. You need that.

SPEAKER_00

There is an iron chain on the one entrance to the room, not lined with salt, that the ghost will trip over. More or less. More or less. Which will trigger an axe to cut a rope that will release a nut full of coconuts.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

And which then the ghost will slip into the suds.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

But they need bait for the trap.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00

And this time it's Shaggy, Scooby, and Castel who are the baits. In which they manage to not trigger the trap. The ghost does chase them, the ghost does trigger the trap. However, Fred forgot something vitally important about ghosts.

SPEAKER_03

What? And what did he forget?

SPEAKER_00

They're intangible. The coconuts go right through the ghosts.

SPEAKER_03

They go right to the ghost.

SPEAKER_00

Causing Shaggy, Scooby, and Castel to trip on the coconuts into the suds. Into the suds. Into the washing machine.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Luckily, it was either Sam or Dean who had the foresight of the backfiring that they had plan B for Operation Bookworm.

SPEAKER_03

That was Dean. He told Daphne it was Operation Bookworm.

SPEAKER_00

So it was Dean. But was it his idea or was it Sam's idea for the plan B?

SPEAKER_03

I don't know, but Dean's the one who said it. So let's think it is that, but I don't know. I don't know. It wasn't mentioned who made the plan, but at least they had a plan B.

SPEAKER_00

Basically, they end up tricking the ghost into going into the library, standing on the spot where the trapdoor is. Yep. Scooby triggers the trapdoor and it drops the ghost into a salt circle.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

It is there where, you know, Sam and Dean find out that it's just the ghost of a little boy.

SPEAKER_01

Little boy.

SPEAKER_00

That his spirit's trapped in a pocket knife his dad gave him.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

How this big bad man named Jay basically took the pocket knife and was having him cause these troubles. Because sometimes he gets angry. Right.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

And you know, Mystery Inc. is fully prepared to get rid of the ghost.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, they are. Surprising. And yep.

SPEAKER_00

Dean realizes like, no, we have to fix this. Because we can't leave these guys like that.

SPEAKER_03

No, they can't.

SPEAKER_00

Convinces the ghost boy to pretend to be the lawyer.

SPEAKER_03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00

So they could do the classic Scooby reveals.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. Mm-hmm. Which is very smart on Dean's part to say, hey, we gotta we gotta change it up, and they ask the kid for a favor. As you see him come out, he's actually the lawyer.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Who would have known? Who would have guessed it?

SPEAKER_00

You know, it's revealed that the fortune Scooby would have gotten his fake money.

SPEAKER_03

That's bogus.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. Scooby's not too shaken up about it. Easy come, easy go. You know, they're going back to the malt shop to celebrate. You know, Dean says goodbye to Daphne.

SPEAKER_03

Yep. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

Velma kisses Sam.

SPEAKER_03

Shouldn't have known Velma was ready. She was prepared, apparently.

SPEAKER_00

It's always the quiet ones.

SPEAKER_03

It's always the quiet one. Yep. Mm-hmm. Definitely.

SPEAKER_00

You know, Cassial tells Shaggy and Scooby he thanks them for their wise wisdom.

SPEAKER_03

In the face of fear. What? Yeah. In danger.

SPEAKER_00

And so they then leave the TV. Yep. They destroy the pocket knife, releasing the spirit of the ghost boy.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

You know, we then go back to the pawn shop where the pawn shop owner is about to sign over his land to Jay. To Jay. In which we see in the display case a little Easter egg. Little Easter egg of the mystery machine.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that was an awesome find.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, it was.

SPEAKER_03

And Easter egg number two.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. Right before the pawn shop owner is about to finish signing, Sam, Dean, and Castel come in with Dean wearing an ascot. An ascot. Pretty much they lay out that, you know, yeah, you were basically doing a Scooby-Doo-esque real estate scam.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

But obviously, because we live in a world where there are real ghosts and everything, and yeah, it's probably not going to be able to convict you. No. But we were able to look at your tax records and everything.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

And if it was good enough to book Al Capone, it's good enough for him.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, that's right.

SPEAKER_00

So, you know, Jay gets arrested.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

He says he would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids.

SPEAKER_03

He said the line.

SPEAKER_00

We then start fading into the circle ends on, you know, the circle around Dean's face where he says Scooby-dooby-doo. Yep. And where we should have been done. It's then pointed out by Sam that he's not a talking dog. It's not a cartoon.

SPEAKER_03

It's not a cartoon. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_00

And that is the end of the episode.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, it definitely is the end of the episode. That oh man, that was definitely a good one to throw in there. I mean, they did such an amazing job with it. After all these years, they could have easily did it and got it done. You know, it's just so interesting.

SPEAKER_00

It is. And I will say this. You know, this being like the only real episode of Supernatural I've ever watched.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like for the moment. Yes. I have seen like pits and pieces of stuff like one that you've had on when I've come over or you know. But it's not like those were full episodes or anything.

SPEAKER_03

Right, no, you came in at a different part or halfway through or less at the end.

SPEAKER_00

That I do think I think this is a nice if if you're a person who knows, you know, at least what I knew about Supernatural, going in and you're a bit curious as to like what it's like. It's I think this is a good episode. Like is it to start in it's self-contained.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Yep.

SPEAKER_00

You know, it's supernatural being a show that ran for 15 seasons on the CW. It's like I don't know how more cohesive other episodes are. Like out, like if it's like, oh, if I miss this episode, this one won't make sense.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, there is that definitely a thing.

SPEAKER_00

It's like here, it's like it's self-contained.

SPEAKER_03

It's like you don't have to watch the series to this episode.

SPEAKER_00

I don't think episode 15 of season 13 set up the giant dinosaur platform.

SPEAKER_03

It did not set that up. Nope. That's definitely in its own thing. So I think definitely there.

SPEAKER_00

I do think that this is a nice self-contained episode. It's like if you are on the fence of starting this series, you know, try this. Like it's probably very different from a lot of the rest of the series.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

But I think it probably still has enough of the same nuances to be a good fit. Right. It's interesting that this is the Scooby episode they took.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Um the whole series is.

SPEAKER_00

Because, you know, the original episode it didn't have the door sequence. It didn't have it.

SPEAKER_03

Nope, definitely.

SPEAKER_00

You know, it didn't have the musical chase number or anything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

But they made it work.

SPEAKER_00

They threw it in.

SPEAKER_03

They didn't know it was a perfect fit for this for the sh for the episode.

SPEAKER_00

And it's like, I don't know if there are very many other episodes I could have picked.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Because, you know, you've got the haunted house, which is just like a classic look, you know, setting. And like the this one had actual other people around that could be in danger. Right. Yep. Out of all of the sixteen episodes of Scooby-Doo that we've watched, for the most part, they're always on their own.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

That I think the only other episode that could have possibly worked but even then would have had to do a major, major retooling.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Is what the heck's going on. Cause that's the only episode where there isn't like another actual like person around with them.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

That would have been in actual danger. Right.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

And yeah, I don't think anything going forward from here would have worked.

SPEAKER_03

No, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00

As well.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

And yeah, I I think sticking to the original Scooby-Doo Where Are You was probably the best call.

unknown

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

But no, it was a very enjoyable episode.

SPEAKER_03

I definitely agree on that one.

SPEAKER_00

Now that we are done with recording this episode for the podcast, you know, I will feel better now starting watching Through Supernatural.

SPEAKER_03

Welcome on that one. You definitely have the right way to watch it. Yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Um you know, because yeah, I was never against watching it. Right. You just never. But it's like, okay, I knew I want I knew I wanted to cover this episode for the podcast.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And I thought it would be better going in with what I know without more background context.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Cause it's like, who knows? You know, maybe there are some people that are listening who haven't watched Supernatural and are curious.

unknown

Yep.

SPEAKER_00

You know, and you know, Supernatural is a big part of, you know, your fandoms and Yes, it's definitely a big part of it.

SPEAKER_03

I agree.

SPEAKER_00

And yeah, not sure how you got started in on this wild, crazy show.

SPEAKER_03

Oh man, I've I'm a trooper. I've watched this show since it came out in 2005. You know, kudos to my father, Mark. He watched the episodes with me, you know, every single one from 2005 up to 2020. You know, we watched every single one of them, whether it was on Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday night, it might have even been Friday night. Twas every uh for a while it was like every day of the week. First seasons they were at least on there, but we watched every single show together, and when this season came out, that new season came out, dad would early years dad would always buy them, bring them home, you know, and we'd always go to special features. Cause as a supernatural fan, you guys all know that at the end of every season, there's the gag reel. So we watched the gag reels, just a whole bunch of bloopers and all that stuff, but how they mess up on stuff, but it's funny. We always got a good laugh out of that. You know, it was just I just loved having that time, and you know, it's definitely a memory of mine that I, you know, hold dear. I'm sad that that series has ended. You know, but there might be a chance that you know they'll come back, you know, but I'm still holding out for that.

SPEAKER_00

So you know Yeah, it's always a shame when our favorite shows end.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it is definitely a shame. Definitely.

SPEAKER_00

I will say, depending on how it ends, it can be better or worse. Like when it when it's when you know it's ending and they're actually able to write a satisfying conclusion, that's a lot better than when it's like in the middle of stuff going on, and it just gets abruptly canceled.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And there's no time to finish out storylines or anything. Yeah. So at least that had some benefit to it.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Well, because the interesting what thing was the boys actually said that they were gonna let us know, let us, the fans, know when the series was series was gonna end. And I believe I think was that around season 13 or 14, they actually came on and and actually let us know that after season 15 the show was gonna be done. But we did they just wanted to mention it to us as they promised.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know, so I mean it was sad to hear that, but you know, we're glad that they were able to tell us in the way that they did.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know, so it's kind of kudos to the fans, you know, that they decided to do that and keep on their promise. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

You know. So you know. So wrapping up with our normal regular stuff, no Scooby snacks for the Scooby Snacky. You know.

SPEAKER_03

Surprising that there wasn't any Scooby. You thought that may I mean maybe you thought I mean we have the classic sandwiches, sandwiches, the double decker sandwiches.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You know, but no Scooby snack.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, that doesn't Which does seem weird.

SPEAKER_03

It does.

SPEAKER_00

You know, but no.

SPEAKER_03

Oh well.

SPEAKER_00

You know, we're not gonna be adding this version of the Phantom Shadow to the Manifest of Monsters, no, or you know, this version of the washing machine trap to the trap list. You know, because one, I'm pretty sure we put the Phantom Shadows at number one.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think we did. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So it's like I don't think this performance lowered it at all.

SPEAKER_03

No, I definitely don't think so. It was very entertaining to see this trap, you know.

SPEAKER_00

And yeah, even so, like this trap was like what, number two? Two or three. Because it's below the money pit, right? Yeah. But above the better mouse trap, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yep, we that's where we put it through.

SPEAKER_00

You know the trap statue, and like honestly, this trap is like less impressive because like there was no way it was gonna ever work.

SPEAKER_03

It wasn't, but good try, guys.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So the iron chain did work though. It burned his stomach. So that part did work. With that, it made the coconuts bow. But honestly, Fred, you should have chosen something else. You should have chosen something like iron, or it could have been like the cannonballs from the battery mouse trap. Oh, there you go. That would definitely be of assistance. I don't know why they would have picked that knowing that it's a ghost and you saw how the iron worked on the ghost from the candles.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. You know, you would think that in the Impala, Sam or Dean may have had like iron ball bearings.

SPEAKER_03

I think I'm trying to think if they do. I know they have the salt gun show the s the shotguns have salt salt rounds in them.

SPEAKER_00

That could have been but that's like even if like they don't normally carry like ball bearings of made out of iron or anything like as a one-off episode, like I could see them having it. Oh, right.

SPEAKER_03

They were in the Apollo just for the sake of that episode.

SPEAKER_00

Because of the conveniency of cartoons.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Yeah, they could have magically pulled it out of the impala somehow.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So really, the only big real responsibility we have is how many Scooby Snacks does this bring to the table of snacks? Which I think we it's no different than the original episode. Like it's uh definitely a five. It's definitely a five. Because yeah, this takes everything that was that made a night of fright is no delight perfect, but adds the musical chase scene.

SPEAKER_03

So it definitely brings it up to a five in it.

SPEAKER_00

And it adds before it uses one of the best songs it could have used.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, definitely not a better instead of licensing a song for it or you know bringing an old song back. Yeah, or like writing something original for it. Like you took the classic Scooby-Doo theme song.

SPEAKER_03

You could yeah, they couldn't have done it any better than how they did it, you know.

SPEAKER_00

Which, yeah, from the early 2000s direct to video movies, um, you know, the ones from 98 to 2001, like those always had a musical chase sequence at the beginning with the Scooby theme song.

SPEAKER_03

Right. They had a couple of them. Yes. One in the beginning, one in the end. You know, they at least had some sort of musical chase scene, which was awesome in that way. But you know.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I think that just about wraps up this mystery.

SPEAKER_03

I think it does.

SPEAKER_00

So we will be back next week with Scooby- back to Scooby-Doo. Where are you? Scooby-Doo watching the episode That's Snow Ghost.

SPEAKER_03

That's Snow Ghost. That'll be a good one.

SPEAKER_00

That will. We may have a special surprise for you listeners at the end.

SPEAKER_03

I have one for you guys.

SPEAKER_00

But until then, remember, they would have gotten away with it too.

SPEAKER_03

If it weren't for those meddling kits.

SPEAKER_00

Scooby-doo-by-doo!

SPEAKER_03

Oh man.