The Scooby Zone
A podcast where 2 old friends watch a bit of Scooby-Doo media and then talk about it.
The Scooby Zone
A Gaggle of Galloping Ghosts
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This week we watch the episode "A Gaggle of Galloping Ghosts" with a gaggle of guest hosts, Scooby Zone super fans Gus and Pierre. What is Velma's response to a vampire? How does Shaggy deal with a werewolf? And who finds Frankenstein's monster hiding in the pantry? All this and more await inside the Scooby Zone.
Hello, and welcome to the Scooby Zone, the podcast where I'm following up as we watch a bit of Scooby-Doo Media. Today, I'm Rob. I'm Kaney. And today we'll be watching episode 11, A Gagle of Galloping Ghosts. And speaking of a gaggle of ghosts, today we are joined by Scooby Zone super fans Gus and Pierre. Hi, thank you.
SPEAKER_00Thank you for having us on.
SPEAKER_01Thank you for wanting to be on. Yes, thank you. We appreciate that.
SPEAKER_00Of course.
SPEAKER_01So, it's your guys' first time on the podcast.
SPEAKER_03Definitely first time.
SPEAKER_01Why don't you guys tell us a little bit of your start of this great franchise of this great game of a dog that you love so much?
SPEAKER_00Well, I started watching Scooby back in the 80s when I was a wee little pup. So my first memories are of watching Scooby-Doo on Saturday mornings. Especially the episodes with Scrappy-Doo. Those were some of the most classic ones that I loved watching. What about you guys?
SPEAKER_02I basically just got interested in it by uh you got my parents. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Can relate, that's how I got in. My daddy's a huge Scooby fan. So yeah, when watching on reruns on Cartoon Network in the early 90s, you know, it was usually always on my house.
SPEAKER_03Unless you're like me and you have it on VHS from someone who recorded it for you. That was how you got into it from your uncle. So you know, that's how I got into the franchise.
SPEAKER_01You know, it's great that Scooby's lasted as long as he has. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It is, yes.
SPEAKER_01And you know, and it's it's refreshing hearing you have fond memories of the Scrappy New era. I feel like you look online, there's so much hate towards Scrappy, and while he's not my favorite of the characters, like I can tolerate him. And in like you know, small doses, it's like, I don't know how I'll feel if I binge watch a whole series with him.
SPEAKER_00For sure. He was new when I started watching, so that's probably part of the nostalgia for me.
SPEAKER_01But I do think he gets the short end of the stick a lot of the times. Like, it's not his fault that the people writing at the time didn't know what to do with him.
SPEAKER_00For sure. You gotta love puppy power.
SPEAKER_03Oh yes, puppy power, of course.
SPEAKER_01Um other questions. You guys have a favorite monster overall, like I can guess. You can guess with uh guys wanting to be on this particular episode. But I could be wrong.
SPEAKER_00Well, the werewolf certainly is a favorite. It's in a couple episodes, and those are good ones. So I always enjoyed the werewolf. What about you?
SPEAKER_02Ah, I also like the snow ghost a lot.
SPEAKER_01My favorite's always been the spooky space kook. I know that was my dad's favorite episode growing up, and that that I think is like a good episode for somebody who's never seen Scooby before because it like hits all the great beats of why Scooby is so hilarious.
SPEAKER_00For sure. Definitely Captain Cutler, another excellent one.
SPEAKER_03Oh yes, he has made our list too. Yes.
SPEAKER_01Um I think he's what three out of the couple.
SPEAKER_03Three, I think, is where he's sitting right now. I think right now he's number three. Yep. Yep.
SPEAKER_01Three or four. I can't remember where we put the ghost clown last week.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Oh yeah, that's true. We have the ghost clown too.
SPEAKER_01Although we'll get to that later one then. Yes, we will. Go through. Do you have any questions you'd like to ask?
SPEAKER_03I don't think so. I think we're pretty much set to watch the episode. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Well about you guys have any questions for us?
SPEAKER_00Anyway, we don't uh I love the Scooby snack count and listening to how many we're getting up to. And I am surprised how low it is yet. Because in your mind you think like he's eaten like 10 an episode, right?
SPEAKER_04Right? Exactly.
SPEAKER_00Not close to that yet. I hope it picks up soon, though.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm hoping. I'm hoping it picks up soon. I believe our current count is 19 Scooby snacks plus one shaggy snack.
SPEAKER_00Plus one hero sandwich from last week. And I would expect there to be about half of that in one episode. So we'll see when he picked it, especially some of those where he starts eating the whole boxes in one sitting.
SPEAKER_01I know we are getting close to where there's at least a whole box eaten. Because I think in Nowhere to Hide, there's a point where Scooby gives Shaggy an entire box of Scooby snacks. Uh during the chase scene.
SPEAKER_00Okay. That should bring up the total.
SPEAKER_01That should figure out how many ever in there.
SPEAKER_03You haven't figured that out yet.
SPEAKER_00Might have to watch it in slow motion, watch them slowly drop out to determine how many actually the box.
SPEAKER_03That's true. Also, it might be a full half a box anyway.
SPEAKER_01No, uh yeah, like surprisingly few times Velma's lost her glasses so far.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we expected that to be more. Yeah, I think we're at like two or three times only.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. You think it's every single episode.
SPEAKER_01Um it is, it's been very mind-blowing. Just like you have all these preconceived notions of like what all happens in every episode, and we haven't like gotten like very little of it. Like, I don't think they've yet to say those meddling kids. No, I don't think yeah. Like, that's just such an iconic line.
SPEAKER_03It is. Yep.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's still first season, they're trying to find themselves.
SPEAKER_03It's probably true.
SPEAKER_00It'll it'll pick up, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And yeah, the We've had very few traps as well.
SPEAKER_03We have had very few traps.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we've had some good ones, but I thought for sure we'd have a lot of traps, like one per episode. But like no, some episodes there's just no trap.
SPEAKER_03You know, so it's like, how does that even make any sense? There's like no trap.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Some ghosts are easier to catch than others.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, some are easier to catch than others.
SPEAKER_00I do like the fake train, though. I thought that was very ingenious.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_03Yep. That's a good thing.
SPEAKER_01Utilizing Shaggy's expertise.
SPEAKER_03Shaggy's expertise. We gotta put that one in there.
SPEAKER_01Hey, when he stops being an expert in something, that's gonna be an issue. Yeah. Because yeah, I don't think there's anything he's not an expert in. No, apparently not. No, last week we showed that he's more of an expert trap maker than Fred. Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_00He's very good at that.
SPEAKER_01He is very good. So, anyways, I think that we're good to go. So we'll split up, go look for some clues, watch the episode. You guys can too. The entire series of Scooby-Doo Where Are You is available on DVD, Blu-ray. It's all still currently available on uh Tubi. You can purchase it digitally off of uh Fandango, what used to be Voodoo uh service.
SPEAKER_03I think Amazon has it too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Double check on Amazon. I know the other day I was looking for I think scrappy related stuff, and like half of it was missing. Half of it, okay. Um, so yeah, just double check on Amazon if you can get that digitally there. Okay. But anyways, we're gonna go watch the episode and we will be right back.
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SPEAKER_01And we're back. That was what a no that was a game of Galilee Ghosts.
SPEAKER_03Oh boy, we're messing up on that one too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay, all right. A little hiprov there. Oh boy. So what did you guys think? I thought it was pretty good. I thought it was pretty good.
SPEAKER_00That was a very good episode. It it seems longer than what you would expect. I think it might be from all the different monsters in the movie, too. Right.
SPEAKER_04Definitely. Oh, definitely.
SPEAKER_01So, yeah, we'll go ahead and we'll start from the top to recap the episode. You guys have anything to add while we're doing that, you know, feel free to. Um so, you know, starts off. We see the werewolf overlook, you know, he's in the castle, he's overlooking. We see the mystery machine driving by. Yeah, of course. You know, the game, they're on their way to what was it? Franken Castle.
SPEAKER_03Franken Castle? Something. Wasn't it like the Franken Castle?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Franken Castle. Franken Castle, okay, alright. And where I think it was Daphne mentioned that there's a fortune teller up ahead. Yep. You know, they decided to go and have their fortune sold. Yeah. Um on the way there, though, I think Velma mentioned that, you know, the castle was imported stone by stone from Transylvania.
SPEAKER_03I think she said that. Sounds about right.
SPEAKER_01You know, and mentioned how Transylvania is famous for its wear moles. Oh, yep. I thought we thought Transylvania was more famous for vampires.
SPEAKER_00I thought it was. Sometimes there's more vampires, but I would agree with that. Well, there was a vampire there.
SPEAKER_03There was a vampire there.
SPEAKER_00It definitely made sense.
SPEAKER_01It did. Um we also get a nice little animation mistake where Fred is missing his blue shirt and is instead wearing a white shirt shirt. Yep.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_01Fred has a lot of animation in his shirt.
SPEAKER_03He has a lot of wardrobe malfunctions, and he looked very confused too. He's wondering why he loses part of he loses that first. And then I think it looks like he's wearing a tank top with still the collar on, so he has major wardrobe malfunctions in this episode.
SPEAKER_00He is very quick at changing his outfit.
SPEAKER_03Wait a minute, don't do that. Oh, don't flip that one. We don't want that either.
SPEAKER_01Then arrives at the fortune teller, you know, and she tells them that there's doom in their future, how they should stay away from the castle, how the caretaker just, you know, left because of werewolves and whatnot.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_01You know, as you can expect, they don't listen.
SPEAKER_03Of course not. Why would they listen? What if they ever listen to when someone tells them something like that? Oh, that means we need to go.
SPEAKER_01Because they don't want to listen to Shag and Stu have listening away from creepy places.
SPEAKER_03Nope, they definitely don't want to do that. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_00At this point, I think they've established themselves of following monsters. So they're gonna go.
SPEAKER_03So they're gonna go. Yep.
SPEAKER_01You know, they show up at the castle, and you know, there's just some convenient lightning going on with no clouds of disappearance.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, how does that how is that even possible?
SPEAKER_01I mean, they could use that as it could be really warm, you know, heat lightning.
SPEAKER_03It could be. Even Fred is is amazed by that. He's confused as to why Wow.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you know, he's so amazed that you know he gets a slight almost unigrow while not even. Uh-huh. Uh you know, they walk up, you know. Shagey mentions how the caretaker's not there, so how are they gonna get across when all of a sudden the drawbridge lowers?
SPEAKER_00Which is very convenient.
SPEAKER_01It is very convenient. Fred thinks that that you know, the caretaker must be back. So they drive up, they get out, and standing across the drawbridge is a vampire. Oh no. You know, tells them they ought to stay away and whatnot. Velma's just like, you stop that now.
SPEAKER_03They have permission to be there.
SPEAKER_01And, you know, vampire turns into a bat, chases them away while the drawbridge starts going up. Yeah. And Daphne gets trapped on the other side. Of course she does. Good old danger-prone Daphne. Danger-prone Daphne, yep, I guess.
SPEAKER_00She is prone to danger.
SPEAKER_01She is very prone. And all of a sudden, Frankenstein's monster appears and starts chasing her.
SPEAKER_03Chasing after her, yep.
SPEAKER_01Fred, being the worried person that he is, yep, decides to swing a rope to have Shaggy and Scooby swing across to let them over.
SPEAKER_00Which is quite a feat when you are swinging across the moat with a great bane on your back.
SPEAKER_02Don't surprise the rope doesn't snap or anything. Keep in mind, there were alligators in the There's a sense of danger.
SPEAKER_03Shaggy is just an expert at swinging on a rope. He is. And wait, this is all done without a Scooby snack. How does that make any sense?
SPEAKER_01Why wouldn't they do it with a thinks he'll get another Shaggy snack for balls?
SPEAKER_03Oh, maybe so.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, which I would have held out for the Scooby snack in there.
SPEAKER_03No, no, yeah, right.
SPEAKER_01If I were if I knew in advance there are alligators in the moat, for sure hold out for Scooby Snack. I would definitely, yeah, right now. Technically, we were not known that there were alligators in the moat. No, no, we didn't. So I'll give it to Shaggy this. Maybe I'll give it to Shaggy. Hopefully, he learns from this.
SPEAKER_03I hope he does.
SPEAKER_01They manage to get across with no problems. They get to the drawbridge control. Shaggy pulls out a wooden pole that was holding it in place while the werewolf is up behind them, scares Scooby away and pushes the pole back in.
SPEAKER_00And Scooby was supposed to be on the lookout.
SPEAKER_03He was supposed to be on gardening.
SPEAKER_01So Shaggy immediately thinks Scooby gave that. Turns to see the werewolf.
SPEAKER_03Stop clouding around, Scooby. This is Scooby.
SPEAKER_01He pulls the pole back out, hands it to her, like, here, friend. Here, best friend. And then they run off. Scooby trips the werewolf while wearing a suit of armor. So this might be the first of what I like to call the coward's costume compendium of the many disguises they wear while chicken while running away from monsters. Yep.
SPEAKER_00And a suit of armor is not an easy thing to get in and out. It is not. And Scooby definitely got in that.
SPEAKER_03You didn't hear it fall or break or anything.
SPEAKER_02He's just running out and also you think he'd be too small to even like fit in there.
SPEAKER_00That's a good point.
SPEAKER_01That is a great date. I would argue that you know, being a great date, he's too big to fit in. Yeah, yeah, he's too big. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So how does he even get in there and out of it without a problem?
SPEAKER_01Makes as much sense as most of the other stuff. That is true.
SPEAKER_03It's maybe just Scooby logic. It doesn't have to make sense.
SPEAKER_01Scooby hides in a piano. Shaggy hides behind curtains in a window. Yep. And uses expert ventriloquism. Part two to trick the werewolf that they are hiding in different suits of armor. Yep. It fools in the first time. Yep. And then Shaggy does it again. Fools the werewolf the second time. Yep. But he throws the suit of armor that's holding the gnat straight into the piano. Into the piano. Scooby picks up some broken piano keys, puts them in his mouth, and pretends to be a monster.
SPEAKER_02Now we have a monster dog.
SPEAKER_00Or a dog that needs braces.
SPEAKER_02Something like that too.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. It could go either way. It could, couldn't it? Um it frightens the werewolf surprisingly. It does.
SPEAKER_03I expect it.
SPEAKER_01Scooby's able to lure him into a trap Shaggy has just made with a chandelier. Which surprisingly works very effectively.
SPEAKER_03It does work very well.
SPEAKER_00We don't even see how the werewolf ends up getting out of that trap.
SPEAKER_01That's definitely true. The fact Shaggy didn't think of how he was gonna get down from that. Right.
SPEAKER_03He didn't think the trap all the way through.
SPEAKER_00But thankfully, Scooby was there with uh, was it a couch, I believe?
SPEAKER_03Some form of a couch.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, some type of bed, day bed.
SPEAKER_03Day bed or something. Good thing that was available. Pretty quick thinking on that too.
SPEAKER_01So uh we then cut to Friend and Velma, where they end up in a dining room without lit fireplace. Yeah. So like maybe we're expected for dinner.
SPEAKER_03I hope not.
SPEAKER_01Just as long as we're not supposed to be there. No, we're not supposed to be dinner. And Velma just completely that's who he was. Definitely. Oh, it looked the same as the horse man, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Almost exact. Almost exactly exact.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Right?
SPEAKER_00And uh yet it wasn't even that long ago.
SPEAKER_03No, it wasn't. So how does that even make it?
SPEAKER_01She was too busy focusing on telling him to stop it. Yep, that's probably thought it was a different one.
SPEAKER_03Probably thought so. Well, they are in Transylvania, you know.
SPEAKER_00It could be more than one vampire.
SPEAKER_01So who knows? Right.
SPEAKER_00Um but he does look extremely different than a lot of the vampires that we will see in future episodes.
SPEAKER_03That's right, yes, he does.
SPEAKER_01So that that doesn't the amount of vampires we end up seeing is quite a lot.
SPEAKER_03It is quite a few. That's surprising.
SPEAKER_00And none look like him.
SPEAKER_03No, yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know, they're looking around the dining room, then Velma loses her glasses, and popping her head on a table. So you go ahead and take a drink for Velma losing her glasses. Yep. And she's crawling around under the table looking for them. If I swear, Velma, like even get a glasses strapped. Yeah, a glasses trap. Come on. Or it's like, you know, they're only gonna fall so far in front of you. Right. You know, they're gonna be looking out in a circle, not a straight line. Yep. But she ends up crawling into a secret passage that's behind the fireplace. Yep. You know, just getting lost. Yep.
SPEAKER_00Which conveniently opened at that time. It did.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it must have been a sensor or something all of a sudden opened. Unless the vampire did it, maybe the vampire came out.
SPEAKER_00I didn't see anything. No.
SPEAKER_03I'm wondering if the vampire might be a different one.
SPEAKER_00If it was when her head bumped the table, that was a very delayed. Because she did spend a little bit of time searching for the glasses before she got, and then there was some distance to cover before she got to the fireplace. But that could have been, I guess.
SPEAKER_03It could have been. Who knows? I mean, I mean, the other thing I'm thinking of is maybe the vampire did something when he was up in the stand there. He has a little console or something.
SPEAKER_01Wait, we know where she ends up.
SPEAKER_03Right. Yeah. I mean, it's I mean, even though we don't see him pushing any buttons, it definitely could be where he did something because he sees her and he could press a button, and that's when it goes up. That'd be that makes sense.
SPEAKER_00Also, it was a dangerous thing to have a fireplace that elevates like that.
SPEAKER_03That would be very dangerous, yes.
SPEAKER_00Is that because the chimney also elevates something?
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00You would think it would have to.
SPEAKER_03That might be a problem.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_03You'll see you'll see a piece of it here. That's our safety conservative episode, guys.
SPEAKER_00And the insurance on that castle is probably astronomical.
SPEAKER_01It probably is. Yeah. If not earlier. Stone by stone. How does that be? It might have to.
SPEAKER_00And would they replace it with Transylvanian bricks again?
SPEAKER_01Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, when you restore like historical buildings, like you have to be really precise on your materials. Right. Yeah. Man.
SPEAKER_00A lot of unknowns.
SPEAKER_03A lot of unknowns here. Yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, this one's full of them, guys. Yeah, this one actually is, surprisingly. Um shade and scoob, they end up in the kitchen. Because where else would they end up? True. So they decide to go check the fridge for some food. You check the refrigerage. And we find uh some pickled bat wings. Werewolf snacks. And fried moon beans.
SPEAKER_03Someone's got quite the appetite.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, don't point out. Are those all for the werewolf?
SPEAKER_03Or are they all are the is that for all of them? Does the vampire get one and the werewolf and then the Frankenstein? That is true. I don't know. You would think, unless the zap is where he eats. If he gets zap, then that's his food.
SPEAKER_01I would say did Dr. Frankenstein give his monster an actual stomach or just a torso?
SPEAKER_00I guess that is an unknown.
SPEAKER_03It's just, oh, this is must be what they eat.
SPEAKER_00And would a vampire eat bat wings? Yeah, that is true.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's bat wings, not the actual bat. So yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I feel like asking the chicken if he would eat chicken wings, I guess.
SPEAKER_03Right? Yeah. Definitely don't think so.
SPEAKER_00I think I think the werewolf would clean up all those.
SPEAKER_03I think so. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I can see that point. I can see that point too. Yep. So, obviously, shades people aren't gonna eat any of that.
SPEAKER_03No. Talk about a menu.
SPEAKER_01You know, Scoob, go check the pantry. Sure, why not? And wouldn't you know it? There's Frankenstein in the pantry.
SPEAKER_03Going in the pantry.
SPEAKER_01He probably does eat.
SPEAKER_03That's why he went in the pantry.
SPEAKER_01No. They got into some kitchen shenanigans riding around on a hook that's just uh kind of suspended in the kitchen. Yeah, why would that be in there? I you know, I'd expect that like a meat market place for like hanging slabs of meat, but it would be a castle kitchen. I can't imagine that. I can't imagine that either.
SPEAKER_00There must be some convenience factor for it.
SPEAKER_01There must be. Well, it can easily help them escape into a dumb waiter. Which then turned into a slide. Yep. Yep. Um but after Shake and Scoob get inside of said dumb waiter, Velma's secret tunnel ends up into a torture chamber. No, it's the playroom. Oh, I was saying these are the playrooms.
SPEAKER_03Look at all those toys.
SPEAKER_01Look at all those toys. It must be the playroom. That must be Shaggy over there. Skeleton.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Skinny enough. Really skinny.
SPEAKER_00I think the skeleton might have been a little bigger than Shaggy.
SPEAKER_03It might have been.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the skeleton would have Scooby-Cealing all the spoons. Yep. Zelma then hears some footsteps and decides to blindly run Scooby. Where she falls into a barrel. Yep. Which I don't know how she heard footsteps when it's Shag in Scoob coming down a slide.
SPEAKER_03It's true.
SPEAKER_01Unless she heard Daphne's footsteps from somebody. True, I guess. She must have like Scooby ears once she's. She must be.
SPEAKER_03Which makes sense, you know, when you lose one sense, all the other ones get heightened. That might be, but then who then how can she not feel her glasses? That is true. How could she not have felt them? Or at least brushed up against them. Oh, then they're right there.
SPEAKER_02It's definitely mean the Velma. She touched everywhere but where her glasses were.
SPEAKER_01Well, you know, fake Scoob come down the slide. Scooby smells Scooby Snacks. Yeah, how is that possible? Why were there Scooby Snacks in a torture chain? No, in the playroom.
SPEAKER_00But what aroma do Scooby Snacks have?
SPEAKER_03Probably like a dog treat or something, I would think.
SPEAKER_00But they seem like they're dry, and usually dry like dog food does not have that at least that strong of an aroma.
SPEAKER_03Right. Yeah. That is true.
SPEAKER_01They almost look like those like small butterscotch candies.
SPEAKER_04Okay. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So I don't know. I'm almost vegan. That was like a butterscotch smell. That could be.
SPEAKER_03Could be. Yeah.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01You know, and I don't think butterscotch is poisonous to dogs or hanging out. I don't think butterscotch is.
SPEAKER_03I would explain it too.
SPEAKER_00Because if it was an actual dog treat, chances are Shaggy would not care for it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think it's probably some sort of like human. I can imagine it being some sort of human food that's safe for dogs. They use as like a premium snack for the city. Yeah, it could be something like that. No, when you're training a dog, like you have like regular dog snacks, and then they're usually like, you know, an extra special snack.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah. Good beef.
SPEAKER_01But, you know, Scooby sniffs Scooby Snacks in this barrel. Somehow they're magically. And all of a sudden one shows up. What pops out? Who is that? Shaggy doesn't believe it. Who did that? And then we find Valentine the barrel. I did. She asks Shaggy if he still has her spare glasses, which she does. Miraculously. How do they did not break just sitting in his pocket with all of the hiding and sliding that they've done this episode alone?
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Kind of amazing. Yeah, you would think that's a good thing. Although her glasses do seem pretty thick.
SPEAKER_03That is true.
SPEAKER_00That is well, they have to be very thick.
SPEAKER_03They have to be very thick.
SPEAKER_02Well, then that wouldn't explain why she couldn't feel them. Well, she's just lightly brushing around where it is, completely somehow missing.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, she's not very good at that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I. We then find we hear Daphne and we find that she's trapped in a dungeon where the top of it is just in the floor. You know, little floor great. She says that she was chased by a creepy old creepy guy.
SPEAKER_03Maybe that's what we heard. Maybe we heard the creature chasing after Daphne. I mean, that could be what they're fairly set up here.
SPEAKER_01And so they find a rope, they lower it down to get Daphne out. Yeah. While at the same time, the vampire comes out of a statue. Like two statue. Yeah. Yeah. Type sarcophagus, type. Sarcophagus, like an. And he starts sneaking up on them. Yep. When Scooby notices, starts growling at him. Yep. And then proceeds to tie the vampire up. Pretty much Empire Strikes Backs. Yep, pretty much.
SPEAKER_03Empire Strikes Backs.
SPEAKER_01Stop that, you mutt. Yep. Yep. Yeah. He gets the vampire's legs tied up and they drip he drags him over into the dungeon they just got Daphne out of.
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_02He tells him away because he wants to put the vampire into the dungeon. Speaking of which, we never see how we get Daphne out of there. No, we she's just random. We can assume how she gets out, but yet you just want to do that.
SPEAKER_01I guess they hold her out while we see Scooby type. That could be. Yeah. We just don't see it on screen, which so you know. They walk off going through a tunnel, which seems to get darker. Yep. They come they open a door where we see Daphne and Velma and they run into Fred. But Shaggy and Scooby have just disappeared. Disappeared.
SPEAKER_03Of course. Somehow they do. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know, Daphne mentions how she has a clue that there was a note in the dungeon she was trapped in. Talking about how there's jewels hidden around. We then cut to Shaggy and Scooby where they run into a mad scientist lab. Yay. We don't know for sure that the scientist was mad.
SPEAKER_00No, but Shaggy is thoroughly convinced. He's convinced.
SPEAKER_01I think we can assume from its location that you know. Yep. There's something off about the scientists.
SPEAKER_03Definitely something off.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Mm-hmm. Shaggy decides to just randomly start mixing chemicals.
SPEAKER_03He's an expert in mixing chemicals. He's the mad scientist.
SPEAKER_00There was no indication that he would have known what chemicals they were. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01He probably did not. Yep. You know. He thinks that it'll turn werewolves into a pussycat. Into a pussycat. While at the same time, behind one of the scientific instruments, it opens up and we see the werewolf. Yep. But Shaggy doesn't like the smell of his concoction. He tosses it behind him where it lands in front of the werewolf and explodes. Yep. And the werewolf just goes back into the tunnel and gets out of there.
SPEAKER_03He doesn't like the smell. The smell really surprised him.
SPEAKER_01He's not dealing with this.
SPEAKER_03He's out of here, guys. They managed to get rid of him.
SPEAKER_01Yep. They see a sheet on the table. Yep. And they think it's the Frankenstein taking a nap. So Shaggy tells Scooby that you'll pull the sheet off. I'll spread in with this fire hose.
SPEAKER_02Yep, that's not like. Also, there's conveniently fire hose there. Yeah, something else.
SPEAKER_00That is a good point. I don't know that that's commonplace for man scientists to have a fire hose in their laboratory.
SPEAKER_01I can imagine a lot of fires break out of their laboratory. Yeah, what it's could be the case. Yeah. How authentic it is to a Transylvanian castle, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I don't think that's that point too.
SPEAKER_01I don't think that's but it'll be a soggy roast. Soggy roast. Turns out it's just a wireframe in the shape of Frankenstein. The water pressure bounces off the wireframe in the Scooby. In the Scooby. Who's wrapped up in the sheet. Somehow. Scooby holds up a mirror to which then the hose bounces off of a light fixture comes back into Shaggy.
SPEAKER_03How does that not explode or heat up or shake?
SPEAKER_01That's when Shaggy decides to turn it off.
SPEAKER_03He gets a bath too. They all end up getting a bath.
SPEAKER_01No. Shaggy and Scooby, they continue to just play around in the lab. Scooby is now pretending to be a Frankenstein monster. Yep. And Shaggy has Scooby get on a gurney, which has a mad doctor. Which has straps on it to strap Scooby down.
SPEAKER_00But you would not want him falling off. No, what's pushing him?
SPEAKER_03He's pushing him.
SPEAKER_01In which they hear moaning. Shaggy asks Scooby if he put the sheet back on the on the wireframe. Scooby says no, and it turns out to be Frankenstein. And he was over there the whole time and nobody knew what it was. Really? Shaggy starts running off, forgetting Scooby. Yep. This is why it was a bad idea to strap Scooby down. This was definitely a bad idea. Well, Frankenstein grabs the gurney Scooby's on and pushes it away. Definitely. Why would he do that? He had the perfect chance to strike. I guess no one ever said Frankenstein's monster was intelligent, do I? Nobody said that.
SPEAKER_00Well, the most surprising part about that is he pushes him away and then he chases after the gurney. Like if you're gonna push him away because you don't want him around, that's fair. But why would you push him just to chase after him?
SPEAKER_03He's trying to get in his steps, alright? He's gotta have his steps.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. Is fitness a big fit back in the 60s?
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Or for monsters.
SPEAKER_03Or for yeah, right. Yeah, right. I guess not.
SPEAKER_01Monsters toppled together from parts of other people. That is true. Yeah. The girlby that Scooby's on bumps into Shaggy and they start riding down out of the room. Scooby's tail closes the door as they go through. Yep. And the trinket signs monster runs into it.
SPEAKER_02How does the cart go so fast?
SPEAKER_03It hits Shaggy, but he's still wet. Yeah. Um how does it gain extra momentum? Yeah, that's true. Unless it sounds like an incline that we don't see that somehow it's going down, somehow. But still. Right.
SPEAKER_00It had to be one heck of a push. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Well, it's Frank is that he's supposed to be really strong. Yeah, that's definitely true. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But in order to get the cart to stop, uh Shaggy pulls the sheet out from under Scooby and uses it like a sail parachute type thing. Thankfully stopping just right before they get to a bunch of stairs. Yep. And then you say, boy, what a fun ride that was. Yeah, boy, what a ride. And then we find, you know, Fred Daphne and Velma. And Velma is like, what do you mean riding that card around? Well, since. And then Shakey's like, well, if you guys didn't get lost.
SPEAKER_03Seemed like a good idea. Yeah. So, yeah, Shakey's stupid to get lost. Velma got lost. Was it the other way around? Nope.
SPEAKER_01Um, Fred mentions how the only clue they have to go on is the note from Daphne. Yep. So they're going down to the crypt. Shaggy asks, what's a crypt? I don't even know why. It's basically a place where people bury their dead. Well now Scooby's sick.
SPEAKER_03That's why he's sick. He goes and hides on the thing and he's sick.
SPEAKER_01How did he get a Scooby snack for that?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I know. This doesn't. Unless we're holding out on Scooby's, I guess, what per episode? I don't know. Are we championing out on Scooby or what?
SPEAKER_01We end up bound by the crypt and we find one that has the same year that was mentioned in Daphne's note. Yep. Of 1668.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_01They open it and they find the vampire.
SPEAKER_02Even though it says Frankenstein on it. That is true. On the two. Yeah, why would you?
SPEAKER_00That is a good point.
SPEAKER_02Why is he sleeping in the city?
SPEAKER_03Well, it's Fernand Castle. Right.
SPEAKER_00So is the vampire's last name Frankenstein?
SPEAKER_03Maybe it's Frankenstein the vampire, right?
SPEAKER_00Is the vampire really Dr. Frankenstein?
unknownOh.
SPEAKER_01It could be. It could be. Yeah, it could be too. Because yeah, then you know the popular misconception is that, you know, the monster isn't Frankenstein. It's Frankenstein's monster. You know, made by Dr. Frankenstein. Right. So maybe it's Vampire Frankenstein.
SPEAKER_00And it is a little rude to go opening those crypts.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Um, I don't know that that's that's a little bit rude, I think.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Did you add expert grave robber to Shaggy's resume? Sure. Well, I think that's not a good idea. Shady Fred open it.
SPEAKER_03He did. He actually surprised me was able to help him.
SPEAKER_01And then he made it Or Spread the Grave Robber.
SPEAKER_03That is true. He is he's one who asked, and Shaggy just helped him.
SPEAKER_01So what's the difference between grave robbery and archaeology?
SPEAKER_03That is true. It's a fine line. It is a fine line.
SPEAKER_01I think the doctor is the difference. Anyway, yeah. The vampire is chasing Fred and the girls. Yep. Shaggy and Scooby are hiding by the tapestry. In which they decide to use the tapestry to try to trap the vampire. Yep.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00Which is a good idea. It is.
SPEAKER_01Until, you know, Fred and the girls run by, in which then Shaggy and Scooby pull the tapestry over. Yep. Vampire's head gets through. He keeps running. Goes back into the crypt. Yep. And, you know, they decide to open it so he has his. Well, he's trapped there.
SPEAKER_03Right, he's trapped in there now.
SPEAKER_00You would not have thought that he could run that well.
SPEAKER_01No. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00With the curtain wrapped around him.
SPEAKER_01Right. You would not think so. They opened it back up and the vampire's gone. Somehow magically he's got a few. All that's left out of the crypt was a ruby, a diamond, and a gold earring. Hmm. I wonder who has that. I wonder who was wearing that. Fred says the gold earring looks familiar. And they noticed that Scooby still has a bit of the torn tapestry.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01And on the back side were pearls and a bunch of other jewels.
SPEAKER_04Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01Which Fred then mentions how the gold earring is very similar to the one the fortune teller was wearing. Oh. So we decided to go back to the fortune teller. Who also has to rush back. Yeah. Everyone's gotta rush back the fortune teller. Fortune teller then asks them how their trip to the castle was. And Fred mentions how they could ask her the same thing.
SPEAKER_03Me? I never went to the castle.
SPEAKER_01In which Scooby finds the tapestry. On the chair that the Fortune Teller is sitting on. Fortune Teller suddenly has a man's board. We have that backwards. Scooby gives chase. Yep. Eventually getting hold of the tapestry, pulls it, and you know, the fortune teller just falls right as a police car is coming by.
SPEAKER_03Magic magically shows up. Hmm.
SPEAKER_00He did hear of trouble.
SPEAKER_03There was trouble afoot. How he would have heard that I am not. Also, we don't know where the police station is. Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_00It could be next to the castle.
SPEAKER_03It could be. Or he could just be out on patrol and all of a sudden somehow hears the trouble afoot. Yeah. You know.
SPEAKER_01We don't know when the caretaker left. So maybe the caretaker, you know, got in touch with the was like, hey, there are monsters around here. Wait a minute to go arrest them.
SPEAKER_00Why did the caretaker leave? Could the caretaker have been in on it?
SPEAKER_03That could have been true. There are so many unanswered questions.
SPEAKER_00He's an unseen character. Right.
SPEAKER_03Yep. But was just mentioned.
SPEAKER_00In on it.
SPEAKER_01It could be. Yeah, you never know. You know. We find out that the fortune teller is really Big Bob Oakley, also known as the actor, who's mounted in seven states.
SPEAKER_03Does make sense why he's in so many different albums.
SPEAKER_00I'd like to know which seven. I'm curious. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_03Simpley mentioned seven. Well, which seven are we talking about here? Yeah, we need to know Coolsville. Yeah, definitely. Yep.
SPEAKER_01You know, in which we don't get quite the, you know, the iconic line of meddling kids, but you know, he does mention he would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those blasted kids. Yep. And the dog.
SPEAKER_00And the dog.
SPEAKER_01And the dog. So we're almost there, guys. We're getting there to the We're blasted.
SPEAKER_03We're blasted. It's supposed to be meddling. But they're blasted kids. So, you know, close, but not there yet, guys. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01We then end this episode on them having a picnic outside the castle. Then they're talking how, you know, the one thing they never figured out is how they did the trick with the bat. Yep. In which we see a bat swoop down. Swoop down. And, you know, it's mentioned like, well, it's just a stuffed bat on a wire. Uh-huh. While at the same time, Scooby comes down on the wire and seals Shaggy's sandwich.
SPEAKER_03Part of his sandwich, not all of it. Part of it.
SPEAKER_00The majority.
SPEAKER_03Majority of it.
SPEAKER_02Why is he holding? He's holding it in a dumb way that something could obviously get it. Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_01He's holding it up like that. When the bat's coming down, Shaggy specifically says, save my sandwich while holding it straight up. Why would you hold it straight up?
SPEAKER_03You would want to.
SPEAKER_00So if he does say save my sandwich, was he expecting one of the other members of the gang to take it and preserve it?
SPEAKER_03That could be. I mean, that is with how he held it out. That was kind of them.
SPEAKER_01Why was he expecting the bat to eat his sandwich?
SPEAKER_03Right? It's just a stuffed bat. Why would it want to eat?
SPEAKER_00I mean, it could knock it down, but that's Well, it wasn't gonna eat the bat wings.
SPEAKER_01No, yeah, right. That's where we ended the episode. Scooby gets a nice good chunk of sandwich. Scooby's upset. Everything's pretty normal for them.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, definitely pretty normal.
SPEAKER_01So, yeah, this is a nice good episode.
SPEAKER_03That's a pretty good episode, surprisingly enough.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. No. On to the more fun bits of the next. Oh, yes, definitely the fun bits of the day. We have another Scooby snack to add to this snack intake. Yay. We definitely do. Our apparent snack intake now is at a total of we've had 20 Scooby snacks, one shaky snack, and one hero sandwich.
SPEAKER_03Yay. We're getting up there, but not as the way we want to.
SPEAKER_00One of my favorite things as a kid was I was watching the hero sandwiches.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I was always jealous that I couldn't have a sandwich that long.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I would love to have a sandwich that big. Have no clue how.
SPEAKER_03You're gonna need a bigger mouth.
SPEAKER_02Shady's mouth doesn't seem that big. So but he squished, they always get it where they have to push the sandwich.
SPEAKER_00Sometimes he ties it down.
SPEAKER_03He gets Scooby to hold his paw to hold it down, and then it gets flattened like, oh. Now he yanks it on to the what happened? Oh man.
SPEAKER_01Alright. Alright. So what should we go on to next? The manifest of monsters or the Fred Jones failure files.
SPEAKER_03Should we let our guests pick for this time? Since we have lovely guests this time. Should we have them pick what we do first? What do you guys want to do?
SPEAKER_00What would you like?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, what would you like, us? Uh, the manifest of monsters.
SPEAKER_01You want the manifest of monsters. So as of right now, the current rankings on the manifest of monsters. Yep. At the bottom at number 10, we have the eight man. Yep. Then at nine, we have the Vasquez Castle Ghost. Yep. Number eight is the Black Knight Ghost. Seven is Minor 49er. Six is the Indian Witch Doctor. Number five is Captain Cutler. Four is Charlie the Robot. Then at three we have the ghost clown. Yep. Two is Pietro the Puppet Master. Yep. And that currently the number one ghost is the ghost of Elias Kingston for his spectacular skills at grabbing shades off screen.
SPEAKER_03Definitely spectacular skills on that one. Yep.
SPEAKER_00On the grabbing or the lack of grabbing, I would have to say that Frankenstein's monster would have to be at the end or very close.
SPEAKER_02Considering he had Scooby trapped and pushed him away. And then starts chasing. And then chasing chasing.
SPEAKER_01Is he didn't even trap Scooby? Shake he trapped. He trapped it for him. He had Scooby handed to him on a silver gurney. Silver Gurney, practically. Yep. So yeah. Frankenstein's monster, yeah. He's probably below the eight-man. Yep, he's a number 11.
SPEAKER_00The costume is more creative. Right. But the lack of brains included in the costume. It's not a good one.
SPEAKER_03We don't want to. Keeping him lower on the list. Oh man.
SPEAKER_01Alright. Where would we put the werewolf?
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's a good one.
SPEAKER_00It is a good costume. Very creative, for sure.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Mm-hmm. Also, he's not like he doesn't, he actually has some sort of brain.
SPEAKER_00He was smart enough to get out of the way when the formula went bad.
SPEAKER_01He's definitely up there.
SPEAKER_03Um I mean, he's gonna still somewhat be lower because he's not as good as the vampire, so the vampire is higher up than the werewolf.
SPEAKER_00Well, let's where are we gonna put the vampire though?
SPEAKER_03That's a good question.
SPEAKER_00The vampire, I think, would be pretty close to the top.
SPEAKER_03Right, but he's uh we have to figure out who he's not as good at. We definitely know he's not as good as Kingston. We definitely no one's as good as Kingston yet. We definitely have proven that one.
SPEAKER_01But is the vampire better than Pietro the puppet master?
SPEAKER_03Oh, that is true, because he knew the place and he kept dropping everything on people. He was really vicious. He was destructive. He was pretty mad with them.
SPEAKER_00But the vampire did know the castle pretty well.
SPEAKER_03That is true. He probably knew it best of all.
SPEAKER_00I mean He knew how to escape through that casket, however, he managed to do that.
SPEAKER_03I mean, he's probably definitely before the before the clown, at least.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'd say the vampire was definitely above the ghost clown.
SPEAKER_03I would say that too.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Although the vampire did capture Daphne.
SPEAKER_03That is true. He did capture Daphne. That is true. So two? Two? Alright. Alright. Alright. So the werewolf. The werewolf. He's gotta be like in the middle. Maybe like the middle or close further from the Frankenstein, but not closer to the first.
SPEAKER_01Do we think the werewolf is better than Captain Cutler?
SPEAKER_00But that's a tough one.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it is, isn't it?
SPEAKER_02Also, he could get better as because there's more episodes with the werewolf.
SPEAKER_01So I think the next time we do see the were a werewolf in Scooby, it's the same as it is.
SPEAKER_03Almost, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I guess I'm gonna say he's probably right before or right after Captain Cutler. Because I think he's very much on that level.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't think he is.
SPEAKER_00It's just a matter of is he blow or is he above?
SPEAKER_03Something like that. Hmm.
SPEAKER_00I almost think he's above.
SPEAKER_03He's above. You want to put him above? Yeah. I mean, yeah, if you want to do. Yeah, I guess we can put above.
SPEAKER_00I would agree. And going knowing what episode is coming up with him, I think that episode would put him above anyway. Right, yep.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Now, do we want to put the fortune teller onto the manifesto monsters?
SPEAKER_00Do we want to put I think the fortune teller would count.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So we're now fortune teller doesn't do much.
SPEAKER_03No, but she warns them that's all.
SPEAKER_00And the fortune teller is the monster that gets caught.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Alright. I mean, I'd put her in between the werewolf and Frankenstein, I think. She'd be somewhere in between them. Yeah, I think.
SPEAKER_01Somewhere between them, which is where So looking at what's there.
SPEAKER_03Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01Above the Ape Man. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Definitely above me.
SPEAKER_01The fortune teller is better than the Vasquez cast.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I think so. I mean, they're kind of almost the same.
SPEAKER_00I could see that probably either way.
SPEAKER_03It's almost the same context almost.
SPEAKER_00Although I'm gonna ask this, going with the Ape Man, is the fortune teller an actual fortune teller? Because then that's just the work outfit as well.
SPEAKER_03Now we're getting really into the details here.
SPEAKER_01No, because uh we know that it's Big Bob Oakley the actor.
SPEAKER_03Okay, fair. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Okay. So he's playing the fortune teller.
SPEAKER_00Right, who does very eight-man was also an actor in the stuff. But I would say yes, above the eight-man still.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I with the eight-man, like his actual job was an actor. I think here the actor is like nickname for the criminal. Sure.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Um he was the magician.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm. He was a magician. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Did a lot more than Fortune Hills. Fortune Home. Well, right.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00Of course, Fortune Teller obviously didn't have much of a role because there were three other monsters.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Right.
SPEAKER_00So I would say maybe below the ghost and above the ape man. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Okay. Yeah, because right above the ghost is the black knight ghost, and not gonna touch that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, not gonna touch that one.
SPEAKER_00Not with the fortune teller.
SPEAKER_03No, definitely not.
SPEAKER_01You just added four more spots to the four monsters. One episode.
SPEAKER_03One episode. Well, there's four different parts, so what makes it four monsters and one Scooby Stick. That's a lot.
SPEAKER_01Only one Scooby Space. I don't think we get another episode with this many monsters.
SPEAKER_03At least not four. Yeah. No. Definitely not. I don't think so.
SPEAKER_01Oh man. Now the nice fun Fred Jones failure files. Oh, yep. Failure files. Alright. Our current listing of traps is at number 10. We have the giant slide from Never Eight the Night Man. Yep. Nine is the instant suds that they use to catch Captain Cutler before try to before Scooby decided to hit him by the boat. Yep. Eight is just the stampede of dogs. Yep. Seventh is the biplane. Scooby decided to run into the Black Knight.
SPEAKER_00That he commandeered for a museum.
SPEAKER_03Yep, that surprisingly still had oil and gas in it to be running, and it surprisingly still worked.
SPEAKER_01Well, they will have enough room to get some lift under the window. Right. How would that do it?
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_01Number six is the fake train. Yep. Mm-hmm. Five is just the random drum and tuba that they caught Pietra the puppet master in after he fell from some scaffolding. Yep. With the drum already broken in the mix.
SPEAKER_03Shanginus dropped tube on him.
SPEAKER_01That's just how that one worked. Four is the giant crate and giant magnet. Yep. That were used to try and catch Charlie the robot, but failed because sabotage. Sabotage. Knowing they were dealing with a robot. Nope, that too. Number three is the mirror that Shaggy used to stop the postclub.
SPEAKER_03Yep, that was pretty effective.
SPEAKER_01Number two is just the special effects nonsense that they pulled off for to catch a lice kingston. Lice Kingston. And still currently the best trap offer is the Rube Goldberg nonsense. That's the better trap from Hassel in the Castle.
SPEAKER_03No, nothing has beaten that one yet. Oh, that's the best one ever.
SPEAKER_00But we got a few traps in it. We do a traps.
SPEAKER_03We got three traps. Oh, that's right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Well, we'll see where they I think we should first start with the tapestry. Because I think that's the weakest of the three that we see.
SPEAKER_00But it was the most ineffective for sure.
SPEAKER_01Right. It basically gave the ghost what it wanted.
SPEAKER_03What he wanted.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_03I'm now how bad do we think that is? Looking at all the ones.
SPEAKER_01Do we think it's better than the giant slide?
SPEAKER_03I mean, the giant slide, even though it sucked, it actually still worked versus the other one that did not.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03So that it might actually work.
SPEAKER_00So I guess you have to take effectiveness into account.
SPEAKER_03You don't it doesn't work. It does didn't even stop him. So if I would be below the slide.
SPEAKER_01So today we learned that Shane is both an expert at traffic and an expert at not tracking.
SPEAKER_02We never threw this out effectively. Also a scientist, a mad scientist. Yes. He also is a mad scientist.
SPEAKER_01That is also true. Um now do we want the chandelier or the higher strength patch? Oh.
SPEAKER_03Hmm. Good question. Stop that, you mutt. You mutt.
SPEAKER_00Well, both were very effective.
SPEAKER_03They both actually were very effective, but which was more effective than the other one.
SPEAKER_00Well, we don't know how or when the werewolf got out of the chandelier.
SPEAKER_03That is true. And how long that held them down. Because it had to be a pretty heavy chandelier.
SPEAKER_01Trying to think. Thinking back, when we saw the werewolf again, which was after the Did we see him in between trapping him with the chandelier and him popping out of the Mad Science?
SPEAKER_00I don't think we did.
SPEAKER_01So it was wild actually. So I almost say the chandelier is the best trap an episode, I would agree. Yeah. So that one. Now, do we think that's better than the special effects nonsense?
SPEAKER_03Oh man, that's special effects did it too.
SPEAKER_01That was almost perfect. Like there was no issues with that.
SPEAKER_03There were no issues with that one. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I guess the only issue with the chandelier was Shaggy did not think through how he was gonna get back down.
SPEAKER_01That is true.
SPEAKER_00So I suppose we could put it lower for that reason. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I suppose. Do we think it's better than just Shaggy using a mirror to stop a hypnotizing ghost one?
SPEAKER_00I think it I'd say I think it's more creative than a mirror.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'd say it's probably better than the mirror. But not better than special.
SPEAKER_00Because he did actually trap the werewolf.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's true. Alright, now we gotta tying up the vampire and throwing him into the dungeon. Yep.
SPEAKER_01Alright.
SPEAKER_00Um well it was effective.
SPEAKER_01It was effective. Yep. Uh do we think it's better than the fake train?
SPEAKER_00I did enjoy the fake train.
SPEAKER_01Fake train is very enjoyable.
SPEAKER_00It is an iconic train.
SPEAKER_03It is. Yeah, that is true.
SPEAKER_00So, for nostalgic purposes, I would say the fake train is better, but I really like fake train.
SPEAKER_03Right, yeah, definitely one of the better ones.
SPEAKER_01Because above the fake train, we have the drug and the tuba.
SPEAKER_03Right, and that's just Shaggy dropping a tuba on him. I mean I mean, yeah, just trapping him in a tuba. Right, that one doesn't really take that much skill versus Scooby actually going through and tying him up, you know, around and such. You know.
SPEAKER_02Also, we don't know how many times he tied it around his leg. Yeah. Right. Quite a few times.
SPEAKER_01You got the cream magnet.
SPEAKER_03I don't think it's better than that. No, I don't think it's better than that. So it's around five and six, around the drum set and the fake train. I'd say it's around that. If we can agree, I think it's at least within that frame. Okay. In between them, at least, first where do you want to put it is another question. You got quite a few options to put it in there, but what's it?
SPEAKER_01Why did we put fake tree below the drum and tuba? Thinking that the biggest one.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's what I was wondering.
SPEAKER_01I think it is a sense of tuba.
SPEAKER_03Oh, because Scooby chased after him was actually able to get him down. And we essentially trapped him versus the fake tree. We did trap him, but yet just because he's hanging off a cliff doesn't mean that we trapped him. Okay. That sounds like a pretty good pretty good option there.
SPEAKER_01Alright, so then I think all that's left is we have to give this a remote.
SPEAKER_03We have to rate this episode to other people to help us rate this one. So that's gonna be interesting.
SPEAKER_01So on a five-point scale, with one being the worst, five being the best, how many Scooby snacks do you think this episode is worth?
SPEAKER_03Oh boy. We're gonna rate this one.
SPEAKER_00I would say it has to be considering the multitude of traps and the multitude of monsters.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00Um I would have to put it a four.
SPEAKER_01Okay, yeah, I think to me the lowest that one could get is a four, in my opinion. I would agree, yes.
SPEAKER_02I was Oh, go ahead. I thought it would be either like three or four. So yes, I would agree with that.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03Alright, yeah, we can rate it, I suppose, as a four if we want, unless we want it higher up than that, too.
SPEAKER_00I think it depends how there's an argument that can be made for five for sure.
SPEAKER_03Right, or in between, like 4.5 or something like that, you know, yeah in the middle.
SPEAKER_01This is like this is a good episode. Like I'm surprised this wasn't featured on a lot more of the compilation VHS tapes or a where it was like a chunk of episodes.
SPEAKER_03Right. You're surprised this one didn't make it to one of them.
SPEAKER_01Like, why was this one not on Greatest Mysteries?
SPEAKER_03Right, yeah. Yeah, definitely. There could definitely move another one, other ones out of it, put that one there, but they didn't ask us at least. They didn't ask the fans where they wanted them to go.
SPEAKER_01Well, yeah, like yeah, the few things that I think that this episode is like really missing are stuff that hasn't really been established. Like, no, could have easily been like a really nice musical chase number.
SPEAKER_03There could have been, but that's those come up later into the series, which they're surprising that they're not in more of them than we've noticed, which is weird.
SPEAKER_01We'll get them by when we get to episode 18.
SPEAKER_03So right. Yeah, we'll get that.
SPEAKER_00I think that piece missing that is what's not giving it a five.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Right.
SPEAKER_01Because you'd think that that would be it's that we got the quick change costumes. Yeah, we did.
SPEAKER_03That was interesting. Yeah, that would that had to be.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, I'll have to start making up the list for the cowards costume compendium with a suit of armor.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, definitely a lot of yeah, one spoofie on that one, definitely.
SPEAKER_01Which those are gonna be fun when we get more of those.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, those will definitely be more fun when we get that far.
SPEAKER_01Um yeah, you know, I think a nice, you know, good four. I think so.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, good four.
SPEAKER_01Just yeah, the few things it's missing that's keeping that from a good, nice five, but yeah, but you know, we'll we'll get there.
SPEAKER_03We'll get there eventually. We gotta episodes to go that could be a five.
SPEAKER_01We just gotta get there. And you know, surprisingly, like we've had nothing lower than a three, so yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00That was well, it is Scooby-Doo.
SPEAKER_01Yes, we do.
SPEAKER_03They're all pretty good episodes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm actually gonna be really surprised when we finally do get to an episode that's a two.
SPEAKER_03Right? Yeah, it's definitely gonna be something. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But so I think that just about wraps this up. I think so too. Uh Gus Pierce, thank you for being here. Yes, thank you. Thank you for having us on.
SPEAKER_03Of course. We always look forward to having our fans on, even though our super fans. Our super fans.
SPEAKER_01Um glad you guys are enjoying the podcast. Yes, we are very glad. Definitely. You can't tell, we have no clue what we're doing.
SPEAKER_03Come on, we have some clue. We're getting there.
SPEAKER_01Um we're having fun. Yes, we're definitely having fun. That is definitely true. So, um, we'll Katie and I for sure will be back next week. Definitely we'll be back. Episode 12, Scooby-Doo and a Mummy 2.
SPEAKER_03And a Mummy 2. Yep.
SPEAKER_01So that's another good fun episode, if I remember.
SPEAKER_03That's a very good fun episode. Yep, that'll be a good one to watch. I think we'll get some more shaggy expertise and some good Scooby action, too.
SPEAKER_01So, you know, we'll be back next time. Yep, back next time. Until then, remember, they would have gotten away with it too. If it weren't for those meddling kids.
